House built in 2000, never occupied or finished.. header board put on house for the deck under the porch, footings poured and 6 by 6 cedar posts erected .. porch roof is self supporting. This was all done in 2000 ... fast forward to now..
What is the best way to tie your beams into the existing posts? The beams are 2-2X12's. ... porch is 10 by 45.. My husband wants to inset one of the 2X12s into the 6 X 6 Cedar, screw the other to it and then put a piece of wood below the 2X12 to help support the one not inset. He says it is too hard to cut into the cedar to accomodate the two boards. This puts the majority of the weight off the center of the footing. Plus, over time these cedar posts shrunk and could swing above the footing. He shimmed them, caulked around it, put 2 by 2's on two sides of the post and screwed them into the footing and the post .. to keep everything in line.
Anyhow, I hate the idea .. hubby and the guy who does up the building material lists at Lamperts came up with it. In order to avoid further argument with hubby I presented this so called plan for a building permit and they say the permit is ready to pick up ... I was hoping they were not going to approve it!
My concerns are, the cedar base is not flat against the footing but shimmed .. so when all the deck weight is on it, it will put uneven pressure on the wood. Cedar splits so easily, could it split? possibly. Also, the majority of the weight will no longer be centered on the footing but to one side of the footing, I think the footings are fine but shouldn't the weight be centered.
I would like to chop off the cedar just above where decking will sit and build the deck independent of these posts. I think it would be sounder. He claims that that would be too difficult??
So ... if we end up tying into these posts, would it be better to put a 2 X12 on each side of the post? and use those metal supports? If he cuts into the cedar, because it is dried out .. I have a hard time imagining that a portion of this post will be able to support the load, especially if there is no certainty as to whether there is a shim under that part? He used actual cedar shims here and there and if you chew on one, ...........they are soft...
He hates to redo work he has already done so wants to tie into these posts. If you have feedback as to what is the best way to tie into these posts, that would be appreciated... or alternative.. thanks sorry for the book.. also, once we are finished up we are selling the place.
Tying into a dried out cedar post...
What is the best way to tie your beams into the existing posts? The beams are 2-2X12's. ... porch is 10 by 45.. My husband wants to inset one of the 2X12s into the 6 X 6 Cedar, screw the other to it and then put a piece of wood below the 2X12 to help support the one not inset. He says it is too hard to cut into the cedar to accomodate the two boards. This puts the majority of the weight off the center of the footing. Plus, over time these cedar posts shrunk and could swing above the footing. He shimmed them, caulked around it, put 2 by 2's on two sides of the post and screwed them into the footing and the post .. to keep everything in line.
Anyhow, I hate the idea .. hubby and the guy who does up the building material lists at Lamperts came up with it. In order to avoid further argument with hubby I presented this so called plan for a building permit and they say the permit is ready to pick up ... I was hoping they were not going to approve it!
My concerns are, the cedar base is not flat against the footing but shimmed .. so when all the deck weight is on it, it will put uneven pressure on the wood. Cedar splits so easily, could it split? possibly. Also, the majority of the weight will no longer be centered on the footing but to one side of the footing, I think the footings are fine but shouldn't the weight be centered.
I would like to chop off the cedar just above where decking will sit and build the deck independent of these posts. I think it would be sounder. He claims that that would be too difficult??
So ... if we end up tying into these posts, would it be better to put a 2 X12 on each side of the post? and use those metal supports? If he cuts into the cedar, because it is dried out .. I have a hard time imagining that a portion of this post will be able to support the load, especially if there is no certainty as to whether there is a shim under that part? He used actual cedar shims here and there and if you chew on one, ...........they are soft...
He hates to redo work he has already done so wants to tie into these posts. If you have feedback as to what is the best way to tie into these posts, that would be appreciated... or alternative.. thanks sorry for the book.. also, once we are finished up we are selling the place.
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