I am looking for some advice on a water softener for my house. Home Depot performed their in-house test and confirmed I had hardwater and TDS which I know from my water report. I am disregarding them due to their outrageous $8K quote for a water softener. I have also contacted 2 local water companies that have A ratings from Angies list. I live in North NJ and my household consists of 2 adults and a 6 month old daughter and we will be adding another child soon. I have 2.5BA but the master BA has a rain shower head, body sprayers, hand held, 6' soaker tub, etc. I also take 2-3 showers a day so I assume we would be a bit more on the higher end of usage for our family size. I have started to read up but I am still uneducated at this point but I did ask the 1st company some basic questions. I am curious your thoughts.
Below is some information from my town's water report:
Chloride (PPM) - 255 (250 RUL; Range 81-255)
Hardness (PPM) - 404 (250 RUL; Range 180-404)
PH - 7.7(6.5-8.5; Range 7.0-7.7)
Iron (PPM) - Manganese (PPM) - 0.002 (0.05 RUL; Range 0.002)
Sodium (PPM) - 77 (50 RUL; Range 30-109)
TDS (PPM) - 882 (550 RUK; Range 337-882)
Nitrates - Unknown due to town having multiple wells
bacteria - Unknown due to town having multiple wells
I had a local company come over and got quoted $1950 for Water Right EVRC (EVRC-1054) and additional $700 for the RO system. The price includes shipping. After doing my inital research, I asked the following questions:
Who makes the control valve? Clack, Fleck, etc.?
• Water Right, manufacturer of the "Evolve" professional dealership series, utilizes Clack control valves.
My family consists of 2 adults, and 1 baby but we are planning for another. We have 2 ½ BA but the master bathroom will consume a lot of water due to the shower and soaker tub. Will the model support our water consumption?
• The 10"x54" EVRC contains 1 cu. ft. of American manufactured Purolite 8% cross linked high capacity ion exchange resin (32,000 grains of softening capacity per service run) & 1/2 cu. ft. of Calgon Granular Activated Coconut shell carbon (GAC). In regards to your home's plumbing system (3/4" & 1/2") copper domestic water lines, water hardness (12 grains per gallon), total chlorine level (0.7 ppm) and potential occupants (3-5 people), this size unit is more than ample for many years of soft, chemical free water throughout your home with uncompromised flow rates, regardless of the type and number of fixtures/appliances being used at any given time.
How many gains doe the system support? What is the flow rate?
• The EVRC is fully ported in 1" npt with peak flow rates of 15.6 gpm. The systems advanced electronics are able to monitor your homes water usage, while only regenerating proportionally to specific water flow demands, thereby maximizing system efficiency.
What type of bypass valve does the system use?
• The system utilizes an industry standard 1" Clack bypass valve, which allows for easy "no tool" bypassing for service and/or an emergency.
Are there replacement parts available or are they proprietary to the WaterRight company?
• Although NMP Water Systems, LLC is the exclusive Evolve dealership in north jersey, there are other local service providers with affiliation/access to the Water Right family of products. The system is very serviceable, not a proprietary "throw away" unit.
Does the unit support a slow rinse during the regeneration cycle? The web site indicates that it only supports a fast rinse.
How long before regeneration is the brine tank filled?
• Regarding system cycles, they go as follows: 6 minute brine fill first, 4 hour brine solution make up, 8 minute backwash, 90 minute up flow (counter current) slow brine rinse, 4 minute rapid rinse, return to service position. These cycles allow for maximum efficiency (ie minimal waste of softener salt & water), while regenerating the resin bed with soft/filtered (chlorine free) water, while preventing brine tank salt bridging via dry salt storage.
What is the maintenance for the carbon? Does it need to be replaced?
• The GAC carbon is recommended to be "rebed" ie replaced after 5 years of moderate to heavy usage. This is a service we provide, currently in the $200 range.
You said there is a 10 year bumper-to-bumper warranty on the entire system. What happens if I have issues after 10 years?
• Our warranty for equipment & workmanship is indeed for 10 years from date of install. This includes all mechanical, electronic and tank components and associated pipe work. After 10 years, any worn out components would be replaced at standard list pricing.
Below is some information from my town's water report:
Chloride (PPM) - 255 (250 RUL; Range 81-255)
Hardness (PPM) - 404 (250 RUL; Range 180-404)
PH - 7.7(6.5-8.5; Range 7.0-7.7)
Iron (PPM) - Manganese (PPM) - 0.002 (0.05 RUL; Range 0.002)
Sodium (PPM) - 77 (50 RUL; Range 30-109)
TDS (PPM) - 882 (550 RUK; Range 337-882)
Nitrates - Unknown due to town having multiple wells
bacteria - Unknown due to town having multiple wells
I had a local company come over and got quoted $1950 for Water Right EVRC (EVRC-1054) and additional $700 for the RO system. The price includes shipping. After doing my inital research, I asked the following questions:
Who makes the control valve? Clack, Fleck, etc.?
• Water Right, manufacturer of the "Evolve" professional dealership series, utilizes Clack control valves.
My family consists of 2 adults, and 1 baby but we are planning for another. We have 2 ½ BA but the master bathroom will consume a lot of water due to the shower and soaker tub. Will the model support our water consumption?
• The 10"x54" EVRC contains 1 cu. ft. of American manufactured Purolite 8% cross linked high capacity ion exchange resin (32,000 grains of softening capacity per service run) & 1/2 cu. ft. of Calgon Granular Activated Coconut shell carbon (GAC). In regards to your home's plumbing system (3/4" & 1/2") copper domestic water lines, water hardness (12 grains per gallon), total chlorine level (0.7 ppm) and potential occupants (3-5 people), this size unit is more than ample for many years of soft, chemical free water throughout your home with uncompromised flow rates, regardless of the type and number of fixtures/appliances being used at any given time.
How many gains doe the system support? What is the flow rate?
• The EVRC is fully ported in 1" npt with peak flow rates of 15.6 gpm. The systems advanced electronics are able to monitor your homes water usage, while only regenerating proportionally to specific water flow demands, thereby maximizing system efficiency.
What type of bypass valve does the system use?
• The system utilizes an industry standard 1" Clack bypass valve, which allows for easy "no tool" bypassing for service and/or an emergency.
Are there replacement parts available or are they proprietary to the WaterRight company?
• Although NMP Water Systems, LLC is the exclusive Evolve dealership in north jersey, there are other local service providers with affiliation/access to the Water Right family of products. The system is very serviceable, not a proprietary "throw away" unit.
Does the unit support a slow rinse during the regeneration cycle? The web site indicates that it only supports a fast rinse.
How long before regeneration is the brine tank filled?
• Regarding system cycles, they go as follows: 6 minute brine fill first, 4 hour brine solution make up, 8 minute backwash, 90 minute up flow (counter current) slow brine rinse, 4 minute rapid rinse, return to service position. These cycles allow for maximum efficiency (ie minimal waste of softener salt & water), while regenerating the resin bed with soft/filtered (chlorine free) water, while preventing brine tank salt bridging via dry salt storage.
What is the maintenance for the carbon? Does it need to be replaced?
• The GAC carbon is recommended to be "rebed" ie replaced after 5 years of moderate to heavy usage. This is a service we provide, currently in the $200 range.
You said there is a 10 year bumper-to-bumper warranty on the entire system. What happens if I have issues after 10 years?
• Our warranty for equipment & workmanship is indeed for 10 years from date of install. This includes all mechanical, electronic and tank components and associated pipe work. After 10 years, any worn out components would be replaced at standard list pricing.
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